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Christopher T George
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Post Number: 1345
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all

Here is a new form that I am pioneering that grew directly out of our Wild Poetry Forum cinquain train further down the board in the community action section. The form comprises writing a number of linked cinquains, i.e., regularly structured cinquains of 2, 4, 6, 8, 2 syllables but that instead are patterned as 2, 4, 6, 8, 2, 4, 6, 8, 2, 4, 6, 8, 2, for as many links as you need, as follows--


Reunion

For Gary Blankenship

My heart,
re-examined
with each recollection
from my past: all of my past loves
and griefs
I revisit
every family
reunion; greet the living
and grieve
for those of us
now dead, relatives loved;
their bodies may be gone but souls
remain,
forever in
our lives. Here with us now,
they sit, visit with us at times
like this.

Christopher T. George
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Denis M. Garrison
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Post Number: 271
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,

This is an interesting idea for a nonce form. It expands the content substantially, which is a plus. On the other hand, the L4 turn of a cinquain is lost by making L5(s) ongoing linking lines. I assume there is no iambic base. That leaves the rhopalic (club-shaped) aspect of the form and the effective use of line breaks as the primary effects of the linkain. I am finding the line break as the major aspect of the cinqku to be very useful, so, surely it can be useful here also. I suppose resonant connections between/among the short lines could also be useful. Is this meant for collaborative verse?

bw,
Denis
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Dale McLain
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Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 4:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Denis~ I have no idea what you said, but I love all those big poet-y words!
I'm off to enroll in poetry 101.
grins~dale (aka- a heathen)
James Louros
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Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this poem reminds me to remember and care for all the special people in my life. :-] cool
-j michael
Christopher T George
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 2:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, James!

Chris
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Christopher T George
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Post Number: 1350
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 2:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Denis

No, this particular poem is meant to be a one-of-a-kind, though we could no doubt start a linkain train in the community action section if we so wished. I appreciate what you are saying that the L4 turn of a cinquain is lost by making L5(s) ongoing linking lines. You are correct that as devised there is no iambic base. As in a cinquain, the form relies on the effective use of line breaks.

One commentator elsewhere noted in regard to this example of a linkain, "the strength lies in the 2 syllable lines ... my heart, and griefs, and grieve, remain."

Another critter wrote: "this works as a poem, regardless of its form. And I like the form. I often will limit my self with syllable counts if I am struggling to discipline a passionate thought into poetry. It strikes me that this would be an excellent form to use for such purposes."

All my best

Chris


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Kathy Paupore
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris, an interesting idea. Here's what speaks to me in this piece:

My heart
and griefs
I revisit
and grieve
remain
like this.

:-) K


Denis M. Garrison
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,

Thanks for the elucidation. I agree that line breaks can be the defining technique of a form (after all, they are for free verse, the largest category of modern English verse). In the linkain, the line breaks militate the repeating rhopalic form, which the American cinquain has proven to have great effect. Adherence to form forces innovative phraseology. The extraordinarily short lines (2 syllables) gain power by isolation, an ancient and effective technique. What's not to like about the linkain? Well done.

Since the form is a repeating shape, perhaps it should be named for the form it creates, something like a panpipe (aka panflute, syrinx, quills) or seawave...

bw,
Denis
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Christopher T George
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Post Number: 1359
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 4:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kathy and Denis

Thank you both. Actually you give me an idea, Denis, perhaps a linkain on the panflute will be my next in the form.

All my best

Chris
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Bren
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Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 5:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Christopher,
I like this but I know I couldn't get past the first two to write one myself. I'm too ADD but I like yours and I like what Kathy mentioned. You have captured what reunions and grieving are all about. Good write. : )


Bren
Christopher T George
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 6:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Bren! :-)
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Gary Blankenship
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Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris, a good variation on the crown cinquain form, though I probably would not call it new. You've done 2 4 6 8 2 4 6 8 2 4 etc. I actually prefer the extra 2 staying for 2 4 6 8 2 2 4 etc or a reverse for 2 4 6 8 2 8 6 4 2 4 etc.

And thanks much for the deditcation.

Gary
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Christopher T George
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Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Gary.

Chris
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